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onwardforalways asked: Soooo... because the Marvel meme has TONS of good ones, I'll be periodically dropping by to drop another name. But for now? Spider-man.

urbanayellow:

Spider-Man: How have you dealt with some of the tragedies in your life?

(That’s cool, man. c: I think I may answer this one ooc because, well, let’s be honest… Bumblebee doesn’t know HOW to deal with the tragedies in his life.

When Raf was injured from Megatron’s blast, when Bumblebee lost his T Cog to MECH, his voice especially — He doesn’t deal with it. Bumblebee doesn’t try to find alternatives/solutions to his problems, he whines and pouts and grumps about the base until he gets his way somehow.

And the way the show played out?

He never had to learn HOW to cope, EVER. Raf got hurt? Raf got better. He lost his T Cog? He got it back. He lost his voice? He got it back too.

It’s actually disappointing in a way. Because Arcee, Wheeljack, Ratchet.. A lot of the characters went through tons of character growth and yet Bumblebee never really has to learn to get over his issues, because he’s kinda hand fed his solutions (which end up being the exact thing he wants through forms of miracles in some cases) so he never has to cope.

As a Mun I intend to change some of the canon Transformers Prime for the universe I share with my friends to change this.

But I’ll just be clear now — (To ANYONE reading this) — I do NOT hate Transformers Prime. There are some things that I think could be improved on, but most people feel that way about most things. So please, no hate! I’m honestly just trying to be constructive as I’ve had a lot of time to sit and think on Bumblebee’s character.

And thank you again, Onward, for giving me a chance to write up things I haven’t had much of a chance to. c:)

It’s an interesting situation… A lot of the “big character set pieces” put in place for Bumblebee generally end up being about Ratchet.

  • Raf gets injured? Ratchet comes up with the solution to save the kid’s life
  • Bumblebee loses his T-Cog? Ratchet’s both willing to sacrifice his own and then can fix BB’s after its been shot at
  • Bumblebee’s got no voice and gets fatally wounded by Megatron? Bumblebee falls into a magical pit of glop the Ratchet spent the last episode making which fixes the voice thing, heals the wound, and basically gives BB the advantage necessary to kill Megatron

Bumblebee’s character often ends up being used to prop up Ratchet on a basic writing level. And on a character level, every hardship BB runs into is either directly or indirectly solved by Ratchet. (Even in Predacon Rising, Bumblebee has to call Ratchet in to deal with the Ultra Magnus situation).

Like I said, I find it interesting for a children’s television cartoon to use a character so iconic to the franchise and one supposedly close to the target demographic as window dressing to an elderly character. And it also sets up some groundwork for the RiD sequel series. Because now Bumblebee’s in a position of authority and maaaaaayyyybbbeeee won’t be able to yell out: “Please Ratchet, will you fix it for me?”

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slenderwave:

// - …So maybe it’s just a case of me having waited until the premiere to watch it and you all figured this out as soon as the torrent went up and I just never new because I had spoilers tagged, but, uh.

They apparently told us about Smokey, his repaint, and KO’s defection in the movie back in the middle of S2?  During Nemesis Prime.

I almost fell off the bed.  This is like the third thing during this first-time re/watch with the non-fandom roommate that we’ve slapped ourselves upside the head about.

Well I’ll be damned…

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Anonymous asked: Glad to see you're finally talkin Predacons Rising! I was particularly curious to hear your thoughts on Bumblebee, Predaking and Megatron's roles in it. I really liked to finally see Predaking rising to protect his new home and the respect he held for his ancestors by flat out guarding their graveyard,

I really loved Bumblebee’s role in Predacon Rising, it paid off the goals he’d set up in season 1 and 3 of wanting to graduate to warrior class on his home planet. And getting to see him take charge of the Autobots while Optimus was away with Wheeljack was great too. I was pleasantly surprised by how smooth the transition between the voice-less and voiced BB was, managing to give a feel of the same energetic and sassy BB we’d been introduced to during the TV series. There were just lots of little character moments, like his exchange with Smokescreen on the nature of leadership, or BB’s talk with Arcee about how much he’d learned from her. Like many people, I’ve felt that Bumblebee got underpaid when it came to plot importance or screentime in TFP’s run, but Predacon Rising gave Bumblebee the time he’d been deserving to shine.

imagePredaking remains ever the interesting, intimidating, and intriguing “villain” as he was from Beast Hunters. Basically, the writers had him do exactly what I’d hoped they’d have him do: look for more Predacons, have a rematch with Megatron, and eventually cobble together some followers. As you mentioned, I like how the movie played up the tragic nature of his existence. He’s a king with no species, look out over a sea of bones with no one to command or call friend. He’s at once terrifying and pitiable.

imageThere are small things I could nitpick, like how we never got to see Predaking in robot-mode take on Optimus Prime, or his use of physical violence/domination to get Skylynx and Darksteel on his side rather than a mutual appeal to their status as Predacons, but it doesn’t detract from the overall package for me. I’m also really, really pleased that Predaking didn’t die; I liked him far too much and the Predacons are too cool as concepts to go out fast at the end of a film for the sake of wrapping things up. I’ve got my fingers crossed they’ll show up in future series.

Megatron’s revival by-way-of-Unicron felt appropriate, though I’m still not wild about the new body design (the accidental kitty ears are a nice though). A constant theme running through Transformers Prime has been “stagnation (the past) vs progress (the future)” and the whole notion of Unicron possessing the corpse of Megatron to raise an army of undead prehistoric Cybertronian beasts to crush the new hopes of life and peace on a revitalized world felt like a great way to fully explore that concept. As Unicron says “the past shall consume the future”.

imageThis ties in nicely to Megatron’s decision to not drag the war onwards even if he has the chance, coupled with juicy irony that Starscream (who had once sought dynamic leadership for the Decepticon cause) wants things to remain the same. Admittedly, the sudden change of heart Megs has after being free of Unicron is a little hokey. But I’m willing to let it slide. What would have made it work better is perhaps a scene or two of Megatron (while still under Unicron’s control) marveling at the restored Cybertron and actually happy to see his planet back to life. Thus adding further rational for him to not want to pursue further conflict with the Autobots. Again though, this is a another small nitpick for what I overall consider to be an excellent movie and a great cap to a series I love.

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Some points of parallelism to consider from “Minus One”…

Pragmatically, Smokescreen is correct; there’s no reason for Bumblebee to be concerned with replacing his voicebox. Every Cybertronian can understand him perfectly, it doesn’t impede battle/social interactions, and they have a human translator. But Bumblebee still becomes enraged at the idea of ignoring it, because the loss of his voice was something forced upon him. It was never a matter of personal choice and he wants control over his body and future, much in the same way he is specifically choosing to wait to advance to Warrior class until Cybertron is restored.

This is contrasted with Soundwave, who had the ability to use his voice anytime he wanted to for the past 2 and a half seasons, but also had the ability to choose not to.

Also, Raf mentions that Bumblebee is still attached to his “original voice”… and then later in the episode Soundwave speaks with his original 1984 voice of Frank Welker.

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will-ruzicka:

americanninjax:

Will I swear man, you came up with some of the sickest moves in this season. bastard =D

Could NOT have completed that episode without you, JJ and Carli helping with the cleanup and revisions.

Also, I just watched the episode. SO happy they cut out some of the horrible Smokescreen puns. “The waves keep coming!”

Same here

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But Bumblebee apparently said it’s his choice to remain a scout instead of becoming a warrior becuase he wants to wait to do it back on Cybertron.

Do you guys understand. He wants to do become a warrior on Cybertron-

Bumblebee firmly believes that they’ll restore Cybertron sooner or later.

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That’s just… so…cute…

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And my headcannon is that Optimus so left Smokescreen and Bumblebee alone to let them hook up cause he sees the potential of their relationship and it reminds him of Megatronus and Orion.


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Bumblebee’s little moment about his life goals and decisions legit made me tear up.

Admittedly, I have a heart made of tapioca, but I still think the exchange is praise-worthy.

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visambros:

draqua:

peng-ko:

why did you post this weh

draqua replied to your post: draqua replied to your post: Show Me Some Love….

It’s like… Bumblebee offers a verbal apology to Wasp, and this apparently means BB is in the moral clear, and any anger Wasp/Wasinator has is only Wasp’s fault… Um… That’s not right!

I hate TFA Bumblebee so much ugh. He’s so immature, annoying and impenitent. But he’s Bumblebee. Children love him. Anything bad he does is tolerable. :\

My sentiments exactly!

Bumblebee was a character who desperately needed to suffer consequences for his actions: to wake up and realize just how immature he was and grow as a person. “Autobot Boot Camp” set up a perfect launching pad for this. Because in this episode, it is Bumblebee’s glaring character flaws of immaturity, impulsiveness, and selfishness which causes him to (inadvertently, mind you, but still..) hurt an innocent person very badly. His shortcomings caused very real harm which could not be easily fixed. Wasp was in the Stockade for years and seems to have suffered seriously mental trauma, and Bumblebee needed to own up to the role he had in that. In doing so, Bumblebee could have grown-up as an adult who could accept responsibility for extreme wrongdoings, and Wasp could have regained control of his life.

But… “Where is Thy Sting” and “Predacon Rising” basically absolve Bumblebee of guilt, almost seem to imply that Wasp deserved his horrible fate, and BB never has to really learn or correct his behavior. So long as “sorry” is said, that’s apparently good enough. The whole affair is brushed off as “Wasp’s problem” and Bumblebee can go right back to playing video-games, goofing off, and being rude.

Now, it’s true, Bumblebee did exhibit some very good development over season 3 (saving Sari post-upgrade and showing good problem solving skills when rescuing Arcee): but it really wasn’t enough given how flawed his character was. There needed to be a lot more consequence, growth, and response by BB to repent for his actions that we just don’t get.

There is a line that Bulkhead says to Wasp that got me so mad even though I never really watched the show. Something along the lines of “even though you didn’t do it, you still weren’t a nice bot”. Bulkhead straight up says he deserved it just because he was mean. Wasp might have been a jerk, but he did nothing so bad to deserve mental trauma! 

You’re right, I believe the exact quote is “You were always mean to me and Bumblebee. You may not be a traitor… but you were never a good bot.”

Now, yes, it’s true that Wasp was a bully to Bulkhead and Bumblebee while they were in academy training. He was rude, condescending, and at times, violent. However, certainly not to the extent that imprisonment, torture, and mental degradation appeared to be appropriate punishments.

Furthermore, let us not forget that Ironhide took part in bullying practices alongside Wasp. Yet, we see Ironhide in S3 as a pleasant figure occupying a military position… So, why is Wasp’s bullying past brought to bare against his character, but Ironhide’s isn’t?

Finally, Wasp’s current physical and mental state is proof positive of the Autobot government’s corruption and brutal behind-the-scenes tactics… yet this goes completely unremarked by the main cast. Wasp is simply a criminal to be captured, not a victim of a self-destructive society.

Like I’ve said before, TFA S3 did some cool things story-wise that I really appreciate… But Wasp’s ultimate fate is not one of them

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peng-ko:

why did you post this weh

draqua replied to your post: draqua replied to your post: Show Me Some Love….

It’s like… Bumblebee offers a verbal apology to Wasp, and this apparently means BB is in the moral clear, and any anger Wasp/Wasinator has is only Wasp’s fault… Um… That’s not right!

I hate TFA Bumblebee so much ugh. He’s so immature, annoying and impenitent. But he’s Bumblebee. Children love him. Anything bad he does is tolerable. :\

My sentiments exactly!

Bumblebee was a character who desperately needed to suffer consequences for his actions: to wake up and realize just how immature he was and grow as a person. “Autobot Boot Camp” set up a perfect launching pad for this. Because in this episode, it is Bumblebee’s glaring character flaws of immaturity, impulsiveness, and selfishness which causes him to (inadvertently, mind you, but still..) hurt an innocent person very badly. His shortcomings caused very real harm which could not be easily fixed. Wasp was in the Stockade for years and seems to have suffered seriously mental trauma, and Bumblebee needed to own up to the role he had in that. In doing so, Bumblebee could have grown-up as an adult who could accept responsibility for extreme wrongdoings, and Wasp could have regained control of his life.

But… “Where is Thy Sting” and “Predacon Rising” basically absolve Bumblebee of guilt, almost seem to imply that Wasp deserved his horrible fate, and BB never has to really learn or correct his behavior. So long as “sorry” is said, that’s apparently good enough. The whole affair is brushed off as “Wasp’s problem” and Bumblebee can go right back to playing video-games, goofing off, and being rude.

Now, it’s true, Bumblebee did exhibit some very good development over season 3 (saving Sari post-upgrade and showing good problem solving skills when rescuing Arcee): but it really wasn’t enough given how flawed his character was. There needed to be a lot more consequence, growth, and response by BB to repent for his actions that we just don’t get.

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